Small Church's Big Win: How One Congregation Influenced Congress for Security Funding.

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Pastor Glenn Germany: And

this is what I'm coming out to

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expose of what's taking place.

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What you're hearing is just one grant.

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I'm talking about there's billions

of dollars that's actually

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available for this situation.

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That some churches are getting

and they're being quiet about it.

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Hush hush.

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And it's sad that churches are being

about help that other churches can be

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getting because this is a continual

grant to that they're allowing

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us to have to provide security.

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Tony Tidbit: We'll

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discuss race and how it plays a factor

and how we didn't even talk about

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this topic because we were afraid.

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And today we want you to check out a

familiar face, Pastor Glenn Germany.

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is here again to discuss the ongoing

impact and recovery efforts at

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Jesus Dwelling Church following

the tragic shooting incident.

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We'll explore the community support

received, the essential ministries

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needed in today's churches, and the

work undertaken since that incident.

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Additionally, we'll delve

into the challenges and

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disappointments faced along the way.

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Recognize those who have provide

significant support and discuss the

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new security funding opportunities

available through FEMA, as well

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as the church's new mission and a

folk for focus on safer and a more

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resilient future Pastor Glenn Germany.

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Welcome back to podcast, my brother.

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I appreciate you having me once again.

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I don't feel like I've been going too

long, but I feel like I'm at home.

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Thank you.

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Chris P. Reed: So Pastor Germany, since

you've been gone, give us a brief, you

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know, overview of how has the family been?

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And has the congregation

been since we last spoke?

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Uh, the family has

been well, you know, I think everybody for

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their prayers that went out for my family.

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Everything's coming along.

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We've done a lot of in house

counseling because of the lack

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of support that we did get.

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It was an opportunity for many

organizations to come in and

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actually show care and show love.

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And there was a lot of lack of them areas.

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But to God be the glory,

we're coming along well.

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Tony Tidbit: Well, pastor Glenn, thanks

a lot for that update, buddy, but we're

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definitely want to hear more about what's

been going on and what the future holds.

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Are you ready to talk about it?

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Yes, I

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am.

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Tony Tidbit: All right,

let's talk about it.

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Chris P. Reed: Okay.

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Before we get too deep into it,

let's look and remind people who

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may have been under a rock of what

happened in your congregation or with

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your congregation some months ago.

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So let's play that clip.

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So what you just witnessed was some

harrowing video from a Facebook live

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stream of the Uh, church service.

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But for those listeners who may not have

seen the video and are listening from an

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audio perspective, can you recount what

happened at that point in time for us?

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Pastor Glenn, in your perspective?

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Yes, it was

just another normal Sunday for us,

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you know, we wasn't expecting that and

it's just a another day I'll proceed

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to be speaking life over people's life

and here a man came into the sanctuary

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in order to take my life You know, he

said he was called by God to do it He

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was dealing with mental issues and by

the time I really took notice of him.

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I was staring at the barrel of his gun

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Chris P. Reed: So, so what, what

has been the impact of that?

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Because that wasn't the only thing and

you would hate, I hate the fact that

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that could be the end of your story.

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Um, obviously on this earth, but also not

just the issue that happened, but the,

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the incident that occurred afterwards

or lack thereof response has cascaded

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into your tail as we move forward.

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So can you give us a little bit of

that impact on your congregation

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and how you guys are doing now?

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Yes, it was

one event that exposed a lot of, um,

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injustice, you know, and it's just many

areas where, um, where we just wasn't

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served correctly as a people, you know,

the lack of, um, uh, medical services

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that was provided at the time, the lack

of police support who actually, you

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know, took a long time to get there.

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And then afterwards, the lack of

services that was provided for us.

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You know, in the healing process, you

know, it's sad to say, to be honest

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with you, I'm more upset right now,

or, um, the least thing I'm upset about

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is the young man pulling the gun out.

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I'm more upset about the aftercare

than I am at a man pulling a gun.

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Now that's sad.

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Tony Tidbit: No, buddy, that is sad.

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And, and number one, I'm really sorry.

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You would think in these type of

tragic incidents, the community will

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galvanize together around you and

it seems like that didn't happen.

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What type of support did you receive?

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Pastor Glenn Germany: That's easy.

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None.

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Chris P. Reed: It's a one word.

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Tony Tidbit: So, so, so you didn't get

that, that community outreach locally?

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Uh um, federally as well?

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None.

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Zero.

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Nothing.

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None.

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Tony Tidbit: Nothing.

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Pastor Glenn Germany: None.

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No.

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It was one interview that I'd

done that was on, I think it

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was CNN, that I got a phone call

from a gentleman down in Florida.

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The name of his company is

called, um, Secure Tech Services.

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group.

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Um, they're out of Florida.

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He was the one who actually said,

look, I'm going to get you some help.

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One man put a whole movement in motion.

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And so I give big props to him

for making that phone call to me

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and reaching out and making sure

the proper people get contacted.

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His name was Rico Reed.

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Tony Tidbit: And what type

of, what type of, what type of

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help was he able to, to supply?

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Pastor Glenn Germany: He got me in

touch with the Department of Justice.

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And once the department of justice

stepped in, then the ball started rolling.

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Chris P. Reed: Cool.

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And I think that, you know, first

of all, that's a blessing and

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we talk about mysterious ways.

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So from tragedy to triumph, let's get into

what has actually transpired since then,

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because it's gotten way bigger than your

Facebook live stream and some videos,

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and it's taken almost an international

flavor at this point in time.

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So let's play a clip of something that

happened on the, uh, the house floor.

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News Reporter: Tonight, Senate Majority

Leader Chuck Schumer announced millions

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of dollars in federal funding for places

of worship to boost their security.

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The National desk, Jeff Harris explains.

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News Reporter 2: That is

400 million to be exact.

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That money is getting added to

the existing federal nonprofit

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security grant program to provide

places of worship like synagogues,

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mosques, churches with additional

funds to enhance their security.

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All they will have to do is then apply.

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During his announcement, Senate Majority

Leader Chuck Schumer noted that every

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place of worship is welcome to apply, not

just those who have experienced attacks.

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Senator Chuck Schumer: There are

ample federal dollars, a new 400

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million just passed last week, so that

synagogues, mosques, churches, and

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other houses of worship can apply.

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News Reporter 2: The funding can go

towards anything security related,

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cameras, fences, and even personnel.

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Thank you.

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Chris P. Reed: So, with your church,

proverbially being the straw that

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burnt the camel's back, obviously

other tragedies have occurred at other

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places of worship, but the timing on

that, your ability to speak up and

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speak out and with the new FEMA funding

available coming this August, how

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is your church planning to enhance?

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It's security and understand its

role in this magnificent opportunity.

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You

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Pastor Glenn Germany: matter.

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If I just back you up for a

second, just a little bit.

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And the word is that new funding, the word

is funding that was already available.

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That's the funny thing because

this funding was already available.

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Many churches already knew about

this funding that was available.

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And be honest with you, it's no longer

400 million, but it's actually 700

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million, and that's only one grant.

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And this is what I'm coming out

to expose of what's taking place.

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What you're hearing is just one grant.

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I'm talking about there's billions

of dollars that's actually available.

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For this situation that some churches

are getting, and they're being quiet

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about it, hush, hush, and it's sad that

churches are being hush, hush about

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help that other churches can be getting

because this is a continual grant to

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that they're allowing us to have to

provide security, help with having

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people in place of for security, not just

having cameras, but even you haven't.

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paid security, all these things training,

all these things was already in play.

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And now it's getting exposed by our

event because the simple fact that these

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things been already made available,

but people don't know about it.

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And now we're going to let

churches know about it.

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Tony Tidbit: So, so just so we're clear.

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So number one, thanks for that.

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But just so we're clear, the, this

money has been available for a

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while, but the majority of churches,

synagogues knew nothing about it.

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Is that what I'm hearing?

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Absolutely.

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Right.

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Absolutely.

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You're talking about 90, 95 percent

of churches don't know nothing

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about this money that's available.

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And a lot of times the churches that do

know, the lower churches, they're actually

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also applying but they're not getting it.

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And the, it's a competitive grant

as well, and don't get me wrong, but

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that's what we're going to talk about

in a second about how it is going to

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be made available and now the playing

field is going to be made even.

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Tony Tidbit: Wait a minute.

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So let's, but let's, cause

you just said something.

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So what you just said is that there's

churches that applied for the grant.

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You have these security measures and

even though the money is available,

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they didn't get access to it.

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Yes.

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Tony Tidbit: Right.

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And because it's a competitive grant.

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Is that what I'm hearing?

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Correct.

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All right.

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And when

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Tony Tidbit: you say competitive

grant, like what do you mean?

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Well, be

honest with you, it said, when I

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say competitive, because it wasn't

guaranteed that everyone would get it.

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And it was based upon circumstances

and situations, but still yet be honest

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with you is based on the who know who

and who know what, because the simple

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fact that these little churches, we

don't have the grant writers, we don't

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have, you know, we don't have the what

we need in order for us to be able

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to compete with these large churches.

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Uh, churches, we don't, one thing is

that's very important and it's said

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is that it's based upon language.

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So you got to know the certain

language and terminology they

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use in order to get the grant.

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If the language on your application

is lacking, you won't get it even

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though you need the security the most.

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So, but these larger churches

understand the language that is

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needed in order to get these grants.

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Tony Tidbit: Wow.

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Wow.

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So, so just again, thank you for that.

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So, You had somebody walk into your

church, pull a gun out, point it at you,

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and we all know the divine intervention.

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It didn't go off.

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Your deacon jumped in and you

guys were able to subdue him.

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Police didn't show up for 20 minutes.

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All right.

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You had to walk.

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I think when, when the police

did come, one officer showed up.

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You had to help the officer put

the suspect in the car, right?

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And then what I'm, and then there was

no other support that you've gotten.

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You've been on every media outlet and

you talked about, everybody wanted to

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see the gun being pointed at your face.

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And they were, how did you feel?

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And what would you think

about having a gun?

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But then after that died down, there has

been no other support except the brother

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in Florida that reached out to Rico,

if that was his name correctly, right?

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Right.

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And then he's the one that if

I'm, and I don't want to put

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words in, I just want to be clear.

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He's the one that told you about the

FEMA grant or the, uh, the ability

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to be able to access this money.

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Yes, he's the one

who made me well aware and when I say

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no support, you know, I really like me.

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I like to drop names and I'm sorry.

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I'm like that.

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But look, we're not, we're, we're pulling

the sheep, pulling the rug out, you know,

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the guy who actually sent us 3, 000 and

then it was Joel, Joe, Joel, we thank him.

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It was someone else.

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Another company sent us 500.

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We thank them.

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Other than that, there was a little

support of 2, 100 here and there.

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It didn't go over 4, 500.

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That's how much support we

get as far as helping us to

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do anything in the aftermath.

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Chris P. Reed: So at this point in

time, I realized that the one thing

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you didn't do was be quiet about

the tragedy of the lack of response.

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And you weren't casting aspersions or

pointing fingers, but you wanted answers.

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You demanded answers.

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And I think that your vigilance on that.

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Kind of highlighted the fact

that something needs to be done.

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So now you're on this, don't

hide it, divide it campaign.

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What advice do you have for churches

looking to apply for grants and have

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you gotten enough information now to

where you want to make sure nobody ends

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up in your situation in the future?

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Yes, and all

the information at this moment that

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I'm speaking to you, I don't have all

the information, but as we're going

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forward, I am being provided a hands

on experience where they are walking

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me through it step by step experience

is not the experience is not complete.

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Complete yet at this moment, but

they are walking me through it.

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And when I'm done, I'm educated

enough to understand it and grasp it.

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And I am going to walk everyone

who I have the opportunity to

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walk through it, through it.

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If I got to go to every church

personally in the United States and

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do this here, I'm willing to do it.

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Tony Tidbit: So number

one, that's awesome.

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My friend.

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I just want to make sure

that we're squared away from

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the grant standpoint, right?

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So there's money that's going to

be available, which when Chuck

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Schumer made this announcement

back in May, it was 400 million.

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You're saying now, because if I

remember correctly, based on, uh, the

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gentleman in Florida connecting you,

uh, the right connections, you were

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able to chat with Homeland Security.

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You were able to chat with

a bunch of other agencies to

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really understand the grant.

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So talk a little bit about that.

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Yes, right now.

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I'm on a phone call every

week from this point on.

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I'm doing some planning with

the DOJ Department of Justice.

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I'm on a phone call with them and

they are connecting me personally.

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And this is how it's

supposed to work with them.

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They're not allowed to promote themselves.

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They're not allowed to come on and say

anything, but they have to do the work.

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So they are personally with the DOJ.

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Connected me with each step,

making sure that I have the people

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in place that are able to help

making sure that this is funding.

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And once again, the way he

announced was only one grant.

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There is multiple grants and multiple

funding for these situations.

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And I'm learning that based upon

this situation, you can get help

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from many different directions.

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And that's what we're dealing with.

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You know, learning about the help that you

can get and being ready, made available.

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That's already available.

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Tony Tidbit: Wow.

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Wow.

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That is awesome.

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And then, so they're now

making sure that you're able.

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to partake and be able to get the

funding that you need for your church

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and its security so something like

this will never happen again, right?

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Is that correct?

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So let me ask you this though.

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Are, will they take away, because

you said a competitive grant, are

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they going to make it easy for you?

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for other churches, big and small, to

be able, who may not have, you know,

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language writers or grant writers, right?

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Because they don't have the

support or the access to that.

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Are they going to make it easy for any

church to be able to access these funds?

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Yes, they're

going to make it easy for every

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church to access these funds.

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And that's what we're having a big

summit and the Purpose of without contact

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you for is we're having a big summit.

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It's actually going to

be a monumental moment.

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It's going to be groundbreaking

because the simple fact that

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we're with coming in is the D.

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O.

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J.

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Is coming in.

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Department of Justice

is coming in F.E.M.A.

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Coming in.

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Homeland Security's coming in, the FBI's

coming in, the Governor's coming in,

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the, um, Lieutenant Governor's coming

in, the Mayor's are coming in, um,

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the chief of police are coming in, all

these different, uh, the senate, uh,

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governor, all these are all coming in

to the church, along with Crazy media.

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This media is going to be major.

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Then you got a hundred different pastors

from a hundred different churches.

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A hundred pastors from a

hundred different churches.

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They are coming in.

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And I just limited to a

hundred pastors at this time.

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Just so, you know, it don't

go too far out of hand.

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But they are going to have the people

speak to us and explain to us and tell

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us where the funding is, how to get the

funding, who we can contact to get help

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with the grant writing aspect of it.

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They're supposed to lay everything out

in plain English so we can be able to

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be able to compete with the other larger

churches that are getting funding.

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That is not, you know, doing one thing.

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I just gotta say this.

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One of the biggest ministries I

feel is missing in the church is

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the support of the smaller churches.

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I don't know how in the world that we

can take millions of dollars over to

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overseas and say we're helping the world.

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Where you don't want to help another

church because they don't believe in your

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doctrine or the exact thing which you

believe It just amazes me that you know,

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we believe all of us believe that jesus

is lord That's what makes us christians

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or makes us save you know But yeah It's

like we bicker over little issues when

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there's a greater issue at stake And here

you're willing to go feed the world who

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don't even believe in jesus Who don't

even believe in this, in your savior, but

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you're making sure that they have things,

but you're forgetting to take care of your

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own brothers and sisters in the faith.

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That just blows my mind.

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Christ said, do good unto

all men, especially those

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of the household of faith.

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So how can you look past issues like

this and continue to go do worldly

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missions where you're, you know,

you're missing the true understanding

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and what Christ came to do.

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He came to gather the people of God first.

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And then he actually said.

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You know, the dogs can eat from the crumbs

that fall from the children's table.

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So the focus is the people of

God, but that's a ministry that's

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lacking in the church today.

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Churches taking care of their churches.

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Chris P. Reed: I think that,

you know, obviously you've Been

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open to take up this mantle.

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Like you're not afraid at all

to speak your mind and represent

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your faith and your conviction.

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My question to you, interestingly

enough is I'm assuming from our

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previous conversation, nothing could

have told you when you was a young man,

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that you'd be preaching the gospel.

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Right.

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And then you got to preach the gospel

and you're doing the best you can.

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And you and your brother and your

deacons and all that, putting

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things together for folks.

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How do you feel like God has

prepared you for this next chapter?

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And what do you see as your calling?

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Cause this is another call.

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You got your first call.

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Now he didn't call you

on the cell phone, right?

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The first call probably on a rotary.

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He didn't call you on his cell phone.

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So now with this calling, they take

up this mission to enrich and empower.

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Other churches, other places of

worship through these opportunities

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that the government has for you guys.

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How do you feel like you're embracing

that role and where do you see yourself

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in the future as this ambassador?

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Right now?

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I believe it or not.

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And it's sad that people

would be like, really?

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But truly, I thank God

for where I was called.

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I was caught from a youth before

I actually started, you know,

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running away from the calling.

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I landed in prison, no different than

Jonah landing on a boat trying to run.

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I was in prison, but I thank God that I

received my calling while, while I took,

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here to my calling while I was in prison

because it's like being in an army,

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the army don't train you in the city

because they know all the distractions.

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They take you somewhere, take

you away and they train you.

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And so that's what happened to me.

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Prison was a place where I can hear

from God, where I can actually, um,

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you know, have the time to, to, uh.

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Be away from distractions, family, cares

of the world, you know, and just focus.

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And I was actually, for me real quick,

12 years of learning the gospel, uh,

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you know, and being a pastor in prison,

I actually was studying the Bible

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seven, eight hours a day, every day,

teach three Bible studies every day.

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So no, you know, that's like, Um, on

steroids, you know, learning on steroids.

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And so it really got me equipped

for what God was calling me into.

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And so I didn't learn from the churches.

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I didn't learn under all this hypocrisy.

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I didn't learn under, you know, seeing

how the division of churches is.

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I learned in a place where we didn't

care what denomination he was.

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We just wanted to help each other.

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And that's the type of

gospel I grew up under.

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So now to come home and see all

this going on, it just blows my

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mind of, you know, the way the

churches is towards one another.

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That just, uh, even if we don't agree,

there is something we do agree on

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: 00:22:02

and let's focus on what we do agree

on and let's get this work done.

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Chris P. Reed: So, so with him

being a deliverer and a promise

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keeper, do you never think why you,

or are you thinking why not me?

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Pastor Glenn Germany: Why not me?

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Okay.

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All right.

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I don't know.

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Seriously.

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The reason why and to be honest

with you is because I understand my

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relationship that I have with God.

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And I understand, you know, where he

brought me from and where he brought me

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through and I understand everything he

put in me and with everything that he

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put in me, once again, I'm talking about

somebody who fast, you know, periodically,

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a lot of times, seven days straight, no

food, no water, just seeking God, you

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know, no outside and nothing to bother me.

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: 00:22:41

You know, people like how you go

seven days without eating or drinking

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: 00:22:44

seven days before God was easy for me.

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I did it a couple of times, you know,

where I always fast before God, always

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prayed before God stayed in his presence,

always in the word of God, just learning.

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And so the question is, you

know, he was equipping me.

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I didn't know he was equipping me,

but he was getting me ready for

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what it is that I was going to face.

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When I came home and now that, you know,

for a minute, he had me stored away and

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it's his small community, small church.

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Now he elevated me to this plateau

and now he caught me into, you know,

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this didn't just happen by chance.

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This happened by God.

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Our church was called for

this issue and this happened,

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you know, by the hand of God.

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And now i'm taking hold of it and

i'm running with it and i'm doing

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the work that God will want me to do.

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Securing his churches, helping his

people, and uniting the body of Christ.

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Let's remove these differences

and let's come together.

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Tony Tidbit: Well, here's the

thing though, my brother, you know,

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and again You know, you're a man

of God, and rightfully, you're

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frustrated, rightfully so, right?

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Um, the things that you went through,

your congregation went through,

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your family, your daughter, right?

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Um, the mental stress, and then the

stories you just got finished telling.

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Okay.

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In terms of, you know, we're all supposed

to be out trying to help one another, but

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then not everybody, you know, shows up the

way they're supposed to show up, right?

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Here's the thing though.

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Guess what?

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Now you have that opportunity to show up.

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You're supposed to show up, right?

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God gave you that now.

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So right now, to be honest,

it's about now moving forward.

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It's about you.

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Just what you just got finished

talking about, about your ability.

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Now, God, see this, and

I agree with you 100%.

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You couldn't make this up.

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: 00:24:26

Okay.

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And if you look back at this,

where, you know, a couple of

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: 00:24:30

months ago, somebody walked in your

church and put a gun in your face.

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And the things that you went to,

but now the opportunity for you to

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help so many other individuals, so

many churches across this country,

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regardless of the denomination

that they fall, they fall under.

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That's a huge blessing.

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And now, and you were talking earlier,

so just want to make sure we're clear,

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because you were saying FEMA, and,

and DOJ, and FBI, and the governor,

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and the senator, and the police chief,

and a hundred pastors from churches,

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: 00:25:07

they're all going to get together.

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: 00:25:08

Where are they going to get together at?

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: 00:25:09

They're going to get together where?

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Pastor Glenn Germany: They're

all getting together at my church

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: 00:25:12

Tony Tidbit: at your

church at your church.

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: 00:25:16

Okay.

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So think about that though.

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It's been a tough journey.

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Don't get me wrong.

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And you, and you have every

right to be frustrated.

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: 00:25:25

Right?

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: 00:25:26

Nobody can take that away from you.

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: 00:25:27

But look where it's ending and look

how many more people that you're

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going to be able to touch, help,

and God willing, they'll never be

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in the situation that you're in.

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So that's right there, my friend.

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That's a huge blessing.

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: 00:25:43

You said everybody's coming.

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Only person I didn't hear

coming was the President.

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Okay.

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I mean, you got everybody showing up.

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: 00:25:49

Okay.

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: 00:25:50

So that's a huge blessing.

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: 00:25:51

My brother.

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Correct.

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: 00:25:53

Pastor Glenn Germany: Yeah.

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: 00:25:54

And I mean, to be honest with you, uh,

Tony, you know, a lot of people don't

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: 00:25:57

know the background of, you know, of

everything that I've been going through.

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I, I mean, I'm even back at work.

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: 00:26:03

You know, I work a full time job while

I'm doing all this ministry work, all

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: 00:26:07

this connecting with the DOJs, you

know, dealing with, uh, dealing with

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: 00:26:12

programs, speaking, you know, I wound up

in a hospital, people didn't know that,

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: 00:26:16

that I was in, I landed in the hospital

a couple weeks after, you know, from

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: 00:26:20

doing all the media interviews and, and,

you know, caring for the people, uh,

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I was lacking sleep, my blood pressure

was through the roof, I had to go in

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and I'm sitting in the hospital all day

trying to get my blood pressure down.

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And, and so don't get me wrong, you know,

I'm, I'm grateful and I'm up to the task

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: 00:26:36

and, you know, blood pressure higher.

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Now I'm going out here and do

what needs to be done because

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: 00:26:40

the people need the help.

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: 00:26:41

They need to understand, but I don't

think that they know that's what's really

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: 00:26:46

available and what's coming their way.

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Because each person who I named

the, um, each group, you know,

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uh, FEMA with FEMA comes grants.

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: 00:26:56

With, um, um, with, um, um, um,

homeland security, multiple grants.

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I mean, each group that's coming

in, then they're staking state and

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: 00:27:06

local grants is also available.

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: 00:27:08

Once again, all of this stuff is available

and the people haven't been getting it.

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And I'm taking on the task to make sure

that I learn it, you know, hands on that.

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: 00:27:19

I can go somewhere and give the

training for give understanding

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: 00:27:23

and help people, you know, and.

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Uh, I'm looking forward to being able

to do this, even if I got to work a

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: 00:27:30

full time job still, because I believe

that this is what I've been called into.

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And so I'm going to do

what needs to be done.

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: 00:27:37

Tony Tidbit: Okay, my brother,

I mean, that's awesome.

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: 00:27:39

So tell us a little bit as we close.

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Tell us where, where, number one,

when is this summit going to happen?

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: 00:27:45

And then number two, for the churches

and the pastors all across the country

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: 00:27:50

that's listening to this, this, this,

this, this episode, how can they tap into

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: 00:27:56

this and where it can tell us the steps

they need to do is it reach out to you?

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What do they need to do to start

activating their opportunity here?

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: 00:28:04

Pastor Glenn Germany: With the information

that I'm going to be able to give

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out, and if they're able to follow the

information, then, uh, um, excellent.

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: 00:28:10

If not, then my phone

: 4338

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: 00:28:15

You understand where I'm going with this?

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I'm willing to help them.

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I'm going to give out as much

information as I possibly can.

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: 00:28:21

Help them as much as I possibly can.

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: 00:28:23

You know, it's going to be help,

this is coming up, this is not

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: 00:28:25

something that's a year away.

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: 00:28:27

This is actually coming to August where,

uh, we got a date that's not in stone

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: 00:28:32

yet because we're waiting to make sure

that the officials can be there, but

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: 00:28:35

we're setting the date for August 28th.

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That's the date that we're looking at.

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: 00:28:38

So this is right around the corner

of all these things happening.

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: 00:28:42

I have to limit it to how many

people could come at this point

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because it's just the aspect of

how much the church can hold.

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: 00:28:48

But like you say, this is groundbreaking.

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: 00:28:51

It's actually a monumental

moment for our church.

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: 00:28:54

I'm grateful to God to be a part of it,

and I want to make sure that any, any way

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: 00:28:59

that someone, once the information is out

there and once you start looking online

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: 00:29:04

or once you, you know, whatever it is, any

way that I can help, I'm willing to help.

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: 00:29:09

I'm even willing to train a team

of people so they can go forth

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: 00:29:13

and they can also help as well.

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: 00:29:14

So, and I, and my thing is with

me is if I help you turn around.

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: 00:29:19

Help somebody else and we can

get many more people help.

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: 00:29:23

It's not about money at this point.

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: 00:29:25

It's about let's get people help.

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: 00:29:27

Chris P. Reed: So, so let me

say this as we close it out.

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: 00:29:30

Um, with your campaign to

teach a man to fish, right?

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: 00:29:33

Like, you're not just feeding with

your campaign to teach a man to fish.

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: 00:29:37

How can a black executive

perspective help you do that?

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: 00:29:41

Pastor Glenn Germany: Well, I, I, I,

I, first of all, I'm grateful for y'all

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: 00:29:44

having this here interview by far.

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: 00:29:46

This podcast is major because this is an

opportunity for the information to get

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: 00:29:51

out to let people know what is coming.

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: 00:29:53

The people can actually, you know,

start trying to find out, you know,

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: 00:29:56

how to get this here because there's

time limits with the grants, but there

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: 00:30:00

are also different ones throughout

the year that you can apply for.

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: 00:30:03

And so y'all are doing an amazing

job just by having this here.

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: 00:30:08

interview, it gives people a chance

to hear about what is available.

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A lot of times we can't go

after what is available unless

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: 00:30:14

we know what is available.

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So you can only do what you know.

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So at this point, y'all are

doing an amazing job just being

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willing to follow this through.

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: 00:30:24

Tony Tidbit: Well, thank you, my brother.

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: 00:30:25

And, and, and look, At the end of the day,

we're, we're following your coattails.

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Okay.

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: 00:30:30

Uh, you know, you are willing to come on

and share and talk about this opportunity.

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: 00:30:35

And so we thank you and look, um, what

we're going to do is we're going to

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: 00:30:39

put your website on our, our episode.

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: 00:30:42

We'll follow up with you on any

information where people can tap into.

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: 00:30:45

Is that reaching out to you,

reaching out to whatever?

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: 00:30:48

So they'll have this information as well.

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: 00:30:50

So we can keep the ball rolling.

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: 00:30:52

And then, you know, after we're going

to definitely have you come back.

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: 00:30:56

Because we want to hear about how

many, let's go back to the fish, right?

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: 00:31:00

How many people you fed, all

right, you were able to feed,

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: 00:31:04

all right, with this grant.

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: 00:31:06

And then more importantly, my brother,

is just that we're so excited and

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: 00:31:10

happy that this turned out the way

it turned out, Pastor Glenn Germany.

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: 00:31:14

Pastor Glenn Germany: Amen,

I thank you once again.

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: 00:31:16

And just so you, I just want to say, look,

we're dealing with billions of dollars.

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: 00:31:20

We're not just dealing with millions,

we're dealing with billions of dollars.

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: 00:31:22

One grant alone is worth 700, 000.

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1, 000, 000.

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That's just one.

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And that grant has a address

or has a 150, 000 per address.

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That's how much someone can get

for that one grant per address.

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And so I just want this

information to be put out there.

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And once again, my only

desire is to get people help.

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We need to help.

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Nobody responded.

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I am not going to be what I hated.

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I'm going to be what I wanted,

and so, therefore, I want to help,

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I'm going forth to help people.

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And once again, I thank you for

having me, and may God bless

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you and your podcast as well.

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Tony Tidbit: Well, thank you, my brother.

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Pastor Glenn Germany, we really

appreciate you coming on and sharing

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this powerful message, my brother.

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We love you a lot, and

we'll chat with you soon.

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So I think it's now

time for Tony's Tidbit.

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And the tidbit today, and Pastor Glenn

spoke to it, Support is not just in

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the help we receive, but in the courage

we muster together as a congregation

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turning trials into testimony.

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And you heard that point blank

from Pastor Glenn Germany.

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The trial that they went through,

that they're going through, is now

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going to be a testimony that's going

to help so many other churches.

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So, again, we want to thank him for

coming on and sharing that powerful story.

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Chris P. Reed: I would like to remind

you guys to not miss out on this

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week's segment of Need to Know with Dr.

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Nsenga Burton, a black

executive perspective podcast

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weekly, uh, presents Dr.

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Nsenga Burton, who dives into timely

and critical topics that shape

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our local and global community.

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Remember to tune in to gain

deeper insights and understanding

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on issues that matter.

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You don't want to miss it.

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Tony Tidbit: Exactly.

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You don't, I'm telling you,

she already put it together.

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You do not want to miss this episode.

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Each week, each week is

known Need to Know Thursday.

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So check it out.

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So now we're going to go

into our call to action.

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This is something that we

want everybody to incorporate.

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Our goal here at a black executive

perspective podcast is to decrease

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all different, all levels of

discrimination across the board.

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So we're looking for everybody

to incorporate our call, our call

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to action, which is called less.

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L E S S and L stands for learn.

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You want to learn about people

that you don't know, different

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races, different nuances, so

you can become more enlightened.

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Chris P. Reed: And E stands for empathy.

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You want to empathize and

understand diverse perspectives so

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you can have a closer connection

to your fellow human being.

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Tony Tidbit: And after the E we have S

now, since you've learned and you have

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empathy, now you want to share what

you learn to your friends and family

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so they can become enlightened as well.

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Chris P. Reed: And our last S is for stop.

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You want to actively stop

discrimination and foster inclusivity.

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This will help you build a

fair, more understanding world.

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Let's do this every day and we'll

see the change that we want to see.

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At the dinner table.

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At the coffee shop, wherever, when you

see things not appropriate, you want

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to stop that person and correct them.

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Make sure that we practice less, L E S S,

our call to action, every chance you get.

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Tony Tidbit: Amen.

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Amen.

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So, again, thank you for tuning

in to another episode of a Black

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Executive Perspective podcast.

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You can listen to our podcast

wherever you get your podcasts.

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And don't forget to follow us

on our socials at LinkedIn, X,

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YouTube, Twitter, and TikTok.

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TikTok, excuse me, and Facebook and

TikTok at ablackexec for our pastor,

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for our fabulous guest, Pastor Glenn.

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And I said, our pastor, he is our pastor.

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So for our pastor, Pastor Glenn,

Germany, we want to thank him for coming.

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For the best co host in

the industry, Chris P..

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Reed, who keeps it real for the person

who's one of the top producers on

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the planet, Noelle Miller, who pulls

all the strings to make this happen.

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I'm Tony tidbit.

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We love you.

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We talked about it and guess what?

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We're out.

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BEP Narrator: A black

executive perspective.